Long-time activists and community organizers Lorenzo Kom’boa Ervin (author of Anarchism and the Black Revolution), JoNina Abron-Ervin (author of Driven by the Movement: Activists of the Black Power Era) and Modibo Kadalie (author of Pan-African Social Ecology and Intimate Direct Democracy) discuss how they came to black anarchism, what anarchy means to them, revolutionary literature, how black and/or anarchist «leaders» lead movements astray, gender in the Black Power movement, and nonprofits.